They discuss the importance of being "human" rather than "heroic" as a leader, balancing technical skills with people skills, and the value of curiosity in complex environments. Geoffrey explains why avoiding micromanagement helps develop stronger teams and why leaders should strive to be both humble and confident. Tune in for valuable insights on effective leadership!

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The production team for this episode includes Isabelle Karlsson and PLAN-B's Niklas Figenschau Johansen, Sebastian Langvik-Hansen and Pål Huuse. Background research was conducted by Une Solheim and Kristian Haga.